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神的經綸 and 神新約的經綸

 
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3131godman

註冊時間: 2004-02-25
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發表發表於: 星期二 八月 31, 2004 2:39 am    文章主題: 神的經綸 and 神新約的經綸

Dear saints:

I would like to know if there is a difference (or distictive meaning) when we use the terms of

神新約的經綸 and 神的經綸. Is there any distinctiveness between these two?

Amen!
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stdwang
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註冊時間: 2004-02-25
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發表發表於: 星期三 九月 01, 2004 6:41 pm    文章主題:

如果你看上下文,應該是有區別的。神的經綸主要是說到從過去的永遠到將來的永遠,或者也可以說是根據神的永遠旨意所作的安排。

但是說到神新約的經綸,就指著從主耶穌的道成肉身開始,所強調的乃是神在新約時代的安排和作為。這應該不包括舊約時代,當然也不包括過去的永遠了。

所以,神的經綸包括神新約的經綸;但是神新約的經綸卻只是神的經綸的一部分。就如同在馬太福音中,神的國是從永遠到永遠,諸天的國只是包括今天的召會和千年國的屬天部分。所以,諸天的國是神國的一部分,在其他三卷福音書中,也稱為神的國。

如果你以後讀信息仔細看李弟兄是怎麼使用的,你應該可以看出一些端倪。
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oiko

註冊時間: 2004-08-08
文章: 17
發表發表於: 星期日 九月 05, 2004 9:26 pm    文章主題:

關於神的經綸《The Economy of God》 和 神新約的經綸《God’s New Testament Economy》 之別,可自1997年夏季訓練標語略見端倪:

The apostles’ teaching is the entire speaking of God in New Testament concerning God’s New Testament economy

The New Testament ministry is the unique ministry according to the apostles’ teaching , the teaching of God’s New Testament economy, for the building up the Body of Christ to consummate the New Jerusalem

God’s economy is His plan to dispense Himself into His chosen people
as their life and everything to produce and build up the organic Body of Christ

The New Jerusalem as the consummation of God’s eternal economy is the divine and human incorporation of the processed and consummated God constituted with His regenerated, transformed, and glorified elect

從標語中可見二者差異不大;綜合台灣福音書房發售之《The Economy of God》和《God’s New Testament Economy》二本書的信息來看:
神的經綸《The Economy of God》是:

*2 Corinthians 13:14 shows the steps of God’s economy by the Trinity. “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” Here we have the grace of the Son, the love of the Father, and the communion of the Holy Spirit. What are these? Are love, grace, and communion three different items? No. Love, grace, and communion are one element in three stages: love is the source, grace is expression of love, and communion is the transmission of this love in grace. Likewise, God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one God expressed in three Persons: God is the source, Christ is the expression of God, and the Holy Spirit is the transmission bringing God and Christ into man. Thus, the three Persons of the Trinity become the three successive steps in the process of God’s economy. Without these three stages, God’s essence could never be dispensed in man. The economy of God is developed from the Father, in the Son, and through the Spirit.

*The New Testament unveils to us a wonderful Person, This wonderful Person was first the Son of God unveiled In the four Gospels. Then this Person became the life-giving Spirit, unveiled in a full and detailed way in the twenty-two books from Acts through Jude. Then in Revelation this life- giving Spirit is intensified into the seven Spirits.

*I do look to the lord that our eyes will be opened to see the heavenly vision and the inner revelation of this living, indwelling, subjective Christ in our spirit as the mark of God’s economy.


神新約的經綸《God’s New Testament Economy》是:

*The entire New Testament is a dispensing book. It opens the veil to show us God’s desire to dispense Himself into His people. ……

*We have seen that God’s oikonomia , economy(1 Tim. 1:4)is God’s household administration, His household management, ……

*The Greek word for dispensation is oikonomia , composed of oikos meaning house and nomos meaning law. ……

*The content of God’s New Testament economy is a person who is both divine and human, a Person who both God and man, who has passed through incarnation, human living, crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension and has consummated In the all-inclusive, processed, compound, life-giving, and indwelling Spirit imparted into us in His resurrection as life to us, and poured out upon us in His ascension as power to us that we may live the divine life to express God and move with the divine power, economically, to carry out God’s economy. ……

*Why did God create man, redeem man, transform man, perfect man, and glorify man? For the New Jerusalem. God wants Himself to consummate in the New Jerusalem and He wants you to be with Him in this consummation. …… the New Jerusalem is the ultimate consummation of the mingling of the Triune God with man. If God did not have a purpose, He would be foolish to mingle with us.

*The mingling of God with man can be seen in typology in Leviticus 2:4 with the meal offering, composed of fine flour mingled with oil. The entire New Jerusalem will be the fine flour mingled with the oil. The chorus of hymn 976 says that the holy city is God’s complete expression in humanity. Humanity is the fine flour and God is the oil. The coming New Jerusalem will be a great meal offering, a big cake , made of fine flour mingled with oil. The Triune God is being mingled with us today and this mingling will consummate in the New Jerusalem. ……

自以上摘錄的片段可知神的經綸是重在祂的定旨,這定旨歷世歷代以來是隱藏的直到新約才向祂的信徒照明•在舊約時代,神並未向人揭示祂是父是子也是靈,也未顯示實行祂定旨的步驟,更無他這定旨完成之結果的啟示。到了新約時代,神開始祂定旨實行的步驟,在神新約的經綸�塈畯怓搢ㄢo定旨的終極完成就是得著一個神人二性相調的團體彰顯:新耶路撒冷。
若您要對這個問題有更深入而完整的看見,建議您研讀以上二本書,當可獲得一個按聖經正意所分解開的真理亮光。
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